[1]
[2] PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:
[3] Apollodorus, who repeats to his companion the dialogue which he had heard
[4] from Aristodemus, and had already once narrated to Glaucon.
[5] Phaedrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus, Aristophanes, Agathon, Socrates,
[6] Alcibiades, A Troop of Revellers.
[7]
[8] SCENE: The House of Agathon.
[9]
[10]
[11] Concerning the things about which you ask to be informed I believe that I
[12] am not ill-prepared with an answer. For the day before yesterday I was
[13] coming from my own home at Phalerum to the city, and one of my
[14] acquaintance, who had caught a sight of me from behind, calling out
[15] playfully in the distance, said: Apollodorus, O thou Phalerian (Probably a
[16] play of words on (Greek), 'bald-headed.') man, halt! So I did as I was
[17] bid; and then he said, I was looking for you, Apollodorus, only just now,
[18] that I might ask you about the speeches in praise of love, which were
[19] delivered by Socrates, Alcibiades, and others, at Agathon's supper.
[20] Phoenix, the son of Philip, told another person who told me of them; his
[21] narrative was very indistinct, but he said that you knew, and I wish that
[22] you would give me an account of them. Who, if not you, should be the
[23] reporter of the words of your friend? And first tell me, he said, were you
[24] present at this meeting?
[25]
[26] Your informant, Glaucon, I said, must have been very indistinct indeed, if
[27] you imagine that the occasion was recent; or that I could have been of the
[28] party.
[29]
[30] Why, yes, he replied, I thought so.
[31]
[32] Impossible: I said. Are you ignorant that for many years Agathon has not
[33] resided at Athens; and not three have elapsed since I became acquainted
[34] with Socrates, and have made it my daily business to know all that he says
[35] and does. There was a time when I was running about the world, fancying
[36] myself to be well employed, but I was really a most wretched being, no
[37] better than you are now. I thought that I ought to do anything rather than
[38] be a philosopher.
[39]
[40] Well, he said, jesting apart, tell me when the meeting occurred.
[41]
[42] In our boyhood, I replied, when Agathon won the prize with his first
[43] tragedy, on the day after that on which he and his chorus offered the
[44] sacrifice of victory.
[45]
[46] Then it must have been a long while ago, he said; and who told you--did
[47] Socrates?
[48]
[49] No indeed, I replied, but the same person who told Phoenix;--he was a
[50] little fellow, who never wore any shoes, Aristodemus, of the deme of
[51] Cydathenaeum. He had been at Agathon's feast; and I think that in those
[52] days there was no one who was a more devoted admirer of Socrates.
[53] Moreover, I have asked Socrates about the truth of some parts of his
[54] narrative, and he confirmed them. Then, said Glaucon, let us have the tale
[55] over again; is not the road to Athens just made for conversation? And so
[56] we walked, and talked of the discourses on love; and therefore, as I said
[57] at first, I am not ill-prepared to comply with your request, and will have
[58] another rehearsal of them if you like. For to speak or to hear others
[59] speak of philosophy always gives me the greatest pleasure, to say nothing
[60] of the profit. But when I hear another strain, especially that of you rich
[61] men and traders, such conversation displeases me; and I pity you who are my
[62] companions, because you think that you are doing something when in reality
[63] you are doing nothing. And I dare say that you pity me in return, whom you
[64] regard as an unhappy creature, and very probably you are right. But I
[65] certainly know of you what you only think of me--there is the difference.
[66]
[67] COMPANION: I see, Apollodorus, that you are just the same--always speaking
[68] evil of yourself, and of others; and I do believe that you pity all
[69] mankind, with the exception of Socrates, yourself first of all, true in
[70] this to your old name, which, however deserved, I know not how you
[71] acquired, of Apollodorus the madman; for you are always raging against
[72] yourself and everybody but Socrates.
[73]
[74] APOLLODORUS: Yes, friend, and the reason why I am said to be mad, and out
[75] of my wits, is just because I have these notions of myself and you; no
[76] other evidence is required.
[77]
[78] COMPANION: No more of that, Apollodorus; but let me renew my request that
[79] you would repeat the conversation.
[80]
[81] APOLLODORUS: Well, the tale of love was on this wise:--But perhaps I had
[82] better begin at the beginning, and endeavour to give you the exact words of
[83] Aristodemus:
[84]
[85] He said that he met Socrates fresh from the bath and sandalled; and as the
[86] sight of the sandals was unusual, he asked him whither he was going that he
[87] had been converted into such a beau:--
[88]
[89] To a banquet at Agathon's, he replied, whose invitation to his sacrifice of
[90] victory I refused yesterday, fearing a crowd, but promising that I would
[91] come to-day instead; and so I have put on my finery, because he is such a
[92] fine man. What say you to going with me unasked?
[93]
[94] I will do as you bid me, I replied.
[95]
[96] Follow then, he said, and let us demolish the proverb:--
[97]
[98] 'To the feasts of inferior men the good unbidden go;'
[99]
[100] instead of which our proverb will run:--
[101]
[102] 'To the feasts of the good the good unbidden go;'
[103]
[104] and this alteration may be supported by the authority of Homer himself, who
[105] not only demolishes but literally outrages the proverb. For, after
[106] picturing Agamemnon as the most valiant of men, he makes Menelaus, who is
[107] but a fainthearted warrior, come unbidden (Iliad) to the banquet of
[108] Agamemnon, who is feasting and offering sacrifices, not the better to the
[109] worse, but the worse to the better.
[110]
[111] I rather fear, Socrates, said Aristodemus, lest this may still be my case;
[112] and that, like Menelaus in Homer, I shall be the inferior person, who
[113]
[114] 'To the feasts of the wise unbidden goes.'
[115]
[116] But I shall say that I was bidden of you, and then you will have to make an
[117] excuse.
[118]
[119] 'Two going together,'
[120]
[121] he replied, in Homeric fashion, one or other of them may invent an excuse
[122] by the way (Iliad).
[123]
[124] This was the style of their conversation as they went along. Socrates
[125] dropped behind in a fit of abstraction, and desired Aristodemus, who was
[126] waiting, to go on before him. When he reached the house of Agathon he
[127] found the doors wide open, and a comical thing happened. A servant coming
[128] out met him, and led him at once into the banqueting-hall in which the
[129] guests were reclining, for the banquet was about to begin. Welcome,
[130] Aristodemus, said Agathon, as soon as he appeared--you are just in time to
[131] sup with us; if you come on any other matter put it off, and make one of
[132] us, as I was looking for you yesterday and meant to have asked you, if I
[133] could have found you. But what have you done with Socrates?
[134]
[135] I turned round, but Socrates was nowhere to be seen; and I had to explain
[136] that he had been with me a moment before, and that I came by his invitation
[137] to the supper.
[138]
[139] You were quite right in coming, said Agathon; but where is he himself?
[140]
[141] He was behind me just now, as I entered, he said, and I cannot think what
[142] has become of him.
[143]
[144] Go and look for him, boy, said Agathon, and bring him in; and do you,
[145] Aristodemus, meanwhile take the place by Eryximachus.
[146]
[147] The servant then assisted him to wash, and he lay down, and presently
[148] another servant came in and reported that our friend Socrates had retired
[149] into the portico of the neighbouring house. 'There he is fixed,' said he,
[150] 'and when I call to him he will not stir.'
[151]
[152] How strange, said Agathon; then you must call him again, and keep calling
[153] him.
[154]
[155] Let him alone, said my informant; he has a way of stopping anywhere and
[156] losing himself without any reason. I believe that he will soon appear; do
[157] not therefore disturb him.
[158]
[159] Well, if you think so, I will leave him, said Agathon. And then, turning
[160] to the servants, he added, 'Let us have supper without waiting for him.
[161] Serve up whatever you please, for there is no one to give you orders;
[162] hitherto I have never left you to yourselves. But on this occasion imagine
[163] that you are our hosts, and that I and the company are your guests; treat
[164] us well, and then we shall commend you.' After this, supper was served,
[165] but still no Socrates; and during the meal Agathon several times expressed
[166] a wish to send for him, but Aristodemus objected; and at last when the
[167] feast was about half over--for the fit, as usual, was not of long duration
[168] --Socrates entered. Agathon, who was reclining alone at the end of the
[169] table, begged that he would take the place next to him; that 'I may touch
[170] you,' he said, 'and have the benefit of that wise thought which came into
[171] your mind in the portico, and is now in your possession; for I am certain
[172] that you would not have come away until you had found what you sought.'
[173]
[174] How I wish, said Socrates, taking his place as he was desired, that wisdom
[175] could be infused by touch, out of the fuller into the emptier man, as water
[176] runs through wool out of a fuller cup into an emptier one; if that were so,
[177] how greatly should I value the privilege of reclining at your side! For
[178] you would have filled me full with a stream of wisdom plenteous and fair;
[179] whereas my own is of a very mean and questionable sort, no better than a
[180] dream. But yours is bright and full of promise, and was manifested forth
[181] in all the splendour of youth the day before yesterday, in the presence of
[182] more than thirty thousand Hellenes.
[183]
[184] You are mocking, Socrates, said Agathon, and ere long you and I will have
[185] to determine who bears off the palm of wisdom--of this Dionysus shall be
[186] the judge; but at present you are better occupied with supper.
[187]
[188] Socrates took his place on the couch, and supped with the rest; and then
[189] libations were offered, and after a hymn had been sung to the god, and
[190] there had been the usual ceremonies, they were about to commence drinking,
[191] when Pausanias said, And now, my friends, how can we drink with least
[192] injury to ourselves? I can assure you that I feel severely the effect of
[193] yesterday's potations, and must have time to recover; and I suspect that
[194] most of you are in the same predicament, for you were of the party
[195] yesterday. Consider then: How can the drinking be made easiest?
[196]
[197] I entirely agree, said Aristophanes, that we should, by all means, avoid
[198] hard drinking, for I was myself one of those who were yesterday drowned in
[199] drink.
[200]
[201] I think that you are right, said Eryximachus, the son of Acumenus; but I
[202] should still like to hear one other person speak: Is Agathon able to drink
[203] hard?
[204]
[205] I am not equal to it, said Agathon.
[206]
[207] Then, said Eryximachus, the weak heads like myself, Aristodemus, Phaedrus,
[208] and others who never can drink, are fortunate in finding that the stronger
[209] ones are not in a drinking mood. (I do not include Socrates, who is able
[210] either to drink or to abstain, and will not mind, whichever we do.) Well,
[211] as of none of the company seem disposed to drink much, I may be forgiven
[212] for saying, as a physician, that drinking deep is a bad practice, which I
[213] never follow, if I can help, and certainly do not recommend to another,
[214] least of all to any one who still feels the effects of yesterday's carouse.
[215]
[216] I always do what you advise, and especially what you prescribe as a
[217] physician, rejoined Phaedrus the Myrrhinusian, and the rest of the company,
[218] if they are wise, will do the same.
[219]
[220] It was agreed that drinking was not to be the order of the day, but that
[221] they were all to drink only so much as they pleased.
[222]
[223] Then, said Eryximachus, as you are all agreed that drinking is to be
[224] voluntary, and that there is to be no compulsion, I move, in the next
[225] place, that the flute-girl, who has just made her appearance, be told to go
[226] away and play to herself, or, if she likes, to the women who are within
[227] (compare Prot.). To-day let us have conversation instead; and, if you will
[228] allow me, I will tell you what sort of conversation. This proposal having
[229] been accepted, Eryximachus proceeded as follows:--
[230]
[231] I will begin, he said, after the manner of Melanippe in Euripides,
[232]
[233] 'Not mine the word'
[234]
[235] which I am about to speak, but that of Phaedrus. For often he says to me
[236] in an indignant tone:--'What a strange thing it is, Eryximachus, that,
[237] whereas other gods have poems and hymns made in their honour, the great and
[238] glorious god, Love, has no encomiast among all the poets who are so many.
[239] There are the worthy sophists too--the excellent Prodicus for example, who
[240] have descanted in prose on the virtues of Heracles and other heroes; and,
[241] what is still more extraordinary, I have met with a philosophical work in
[242] which the utility of salt has been made the theme of an eloquent discourse;
[243] and many other like things have had a like honour bestowed upon them. And
[244] only to think that there should have been an eager interest created about
[245] them, and yet that to this day no one has ever dared worthily to hymn
[246] Love's praises! So entirely has this great deity been neglected.' Now in
[247] this Phaedrus seems to me to be quite right, and therefore I want to offer
[248] him a contribution; also I think that at the present moment we who are here
[249] assembled cannot do better than honour the god Love. If you agree with me,
[250] there will be no lack of conversation; for I mean to propose that each of
[251] us in turn, going from left to right, shall make a speech in honour of
[252] Love. Let him give us the best which he can; and Phaedrus, because he is
[253] sitting first on the left hand, and because he is the father of the
[254] thought, shall begin.
[255]
[256] No one will vote against you, Eryximachus, said Socrates. How can I oppose
[257] your motion, who profess to understand nothing but matters of love; nor, I
[258] presume, will Agathon and Pausanias; and there can be no doubt of
[259] Aristophanes, whose whole concern is with Dionysus and Aphrodite; nor will
[260] any one disagree of those whom I see around me. The proposal, as I am
[261] aware, may seem rather hard upon us whose place is last; but we shall be
[262] contented if we hear some good speeches first. Let Phaedrus begin the
[263] praise of Love, and good luck to him. All the company expressed their
[264] assent, and desired him to do as Socrates bade him.
[265]
[266] Aristodemus did not recollect all that was said, nor do I recollect all
[267] that he related to me; but I will tell you what I thought most worthy of
[268] remembrance, and what the chief speakers said.
[269]
[270] Phaedrus began by affirming that Love is a mighty god, and wonderful among
[271] gods and men, but especially wonderful in his birth. For he is the eldest
[272] of the gods, which is an honour to him; and a proof of his claim to this
[273] honour is, that of his parents there is no memorial; neither poet nor
[274] prose-writer has ever affirmed that he had any. As Hesiod says:--
[275]
[276] 'First Chaos came, and then broad-bosomed Earth,
[277] The everlasting seat of all that is,
[278] And Love.'
[279]
[280] In other words, after Chaos, the Earth and Love, these two, came into
[281] being. Also Parmenides sings of Generation:
[282]
[283] 'First in the train of gods, he fashioned Love.'
[284]
[285] And Acusilaus agrees with Hesiod. Thus numerous are the witnesses who
[286] acknowledge Love to be the eldest of the gods. And not only is he the
[287] eldest, he is also the source of the greatest benefits to us. For I know
[288] not any greater blessing to a young man who is beginning life than a
[289] virtuous lover, or to the lover than a beloved youth. For the principle
[290] which ought to be the guide of men who would nobly live--that principle, I
[291] say, neither kindred, nor honour, nor wealth, nor any other motive is able
[292] to implant so well as love. Of what am I speaking? Of the sense of honour
[293] and dishonour, without which neither states nor individuals ever do any
[294] good or great work. And I say that a lover who is detected in doing any
[295] dishonourable act, or submitting through cowardice when any dishonour is
[296] done to him by another, will be more pained at being detected by his
[297] beloved than at being seen by his father, or by his companions, or by any
[298] one else. The beloved too, when he is found in any disgraceful situation,
[299] has the same feeling about his lover. And if there were only some way of
[300] contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their
[301] loves (compare Rep.), they would be the very best governors of their own
[302] city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour;
[303] and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would
[304] overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by
[305] all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or
[306] throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather
[307] than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour
[308] of danger? The veriest coward would become an inspired hero, equal to the
[309] bravest, at such a time; Love would inspire him. That courage which, as
[310] Homer says, the god breathes into the souls of some heroes, Love of his own
[311] nature infuses into the lover.
[312]
[313] Love will make men dare to die for their beloved--love alone; and women as
[314] well as men. Of this, Alcestis, the daughter of Pelias, is a monument to
[315] all Hellas; for she was willing to lay down her life on behalf of her
[316] husband, when no one else would, although he had a father and mother; but
[317] the tenderness of her love so far exceeded theirs, that she made them seem
[318] to be strangers in blood to their own son, and in name only related to him;
[319] and so noble did this action of hers appear to the gods, as well as to men,
[320] that among the many who have done virtuously she is one of the very few to
[321] whom, in admiration of her noble action, they have granted the privilege of
[322] returning alive to earth; such exceeding honour is paid by the gods to the
[323] devotion and virtue of love. But Orpheus, the son of Oeagrus, the harper,
[324] they sent empty away, and presented to him an apparition only of her whom
[325] he sought, but herself they would not give up, because he showed no spirit;
[326] he was only a harp-player, and did not dare like Alcestis to die for love,
[327] but was contriving how he might enter Hades alive; moreover, they
[328] afterwards caused him to suffer death at the hands of women, as the
[329] punishment of his cowardliness. Very different was the reward of the true
[330] love of Achilles towards his lover Patroclus--his lover and not his love
[331] (the notion that Patroclus was the beloved one is a foolish error into
[332] which Aeschylus has fallen, for Achilles was surely the fairer of the two,
[333] fairer also than all the other heroes; and, as Homer informs us, he was
[334] still beardless, and younger far). And greatly as the gods honour the
[335] virtue of love, still the return of love on the part of the beloved to the
[336] lover is more admired and valued and rewarded by them, for the lover is
[337] more divine; because he is inspired by God. Now Achilles was quite aware,
[338] for he had been told by his mother, that he might avoid death and return
[339] home, and live to a good old age, if he abstained from slaying Hector.
[340] Nevertheless he gave his life to revenge his friend, and dared to die, not
[341] only in his defence, but after he was dead. Wherefore the gods honoured
[342] him even above Alcestis, and sent him to the Islands of the Blest. These
[343] are my reasons for affirming that Love is the eldest and noblest and
[344] mightiest of the gods; and the chiefest author and giver of virtue in life,
[345] and of happiness after death.
[346]
[347] This, or something like this, was the speech of Phaedrus; and some other
[348] speeches followed which Aristodemus did not remember; the next which he
[349] repeated was that of Pausanias. Phaedrus, he said, the argument has not
[350] been set before us, I think, quite in the right form;--we should not be
[351] called upon to praise Love in such an indiscriminate manner. If there were
[352] only one Love, then what you said would be well enough; but since there are
[353] more Loves than one,--should have begun by determining which of them was to
[354] be the theme of our praises. I will amend this defect; and first of all I
[355] will tell you which Love is deserving of praise, and then try to hymn the
[356] praiseworthy one in a manner worthy of him. For we all know that Love is
[357] inseparable from Aphrodite, and if there were only one Aphrodite there
[358] would be only one Love; but as there are two goddesses there must be two
[359] Loves. And am I not right in asserting that there are two goddesses? The
[360] elder one, having no mother, who is called the heavenly Aphrodite--she is
[361] the daughter of Uranus; the younger, who is the daughter of Zeus and Dione
[362] --her we call common; and the Love who is her fellow-worker is rightly
[363] named common, as the other love is called heavenly. All the gods ought to
[364] have praise given to them, but not without distinction of their natures;
[365] and therefore I must try to distinguish the characters of the two Loves.
[366] Now actions vary according to the manner of their performance. Take, for
[367] example, that which we are now doing, drinking, singing and talking--these
[368] actions are not in themselves either good or evil, but they turn out in
[369] this or that way according to the mode of performing them; and when well
[370] done they are good, and when wrongly done they are evil; and in like manner
[371] not every love, but only that which has a noble purpose, is noble and
[372] worthy of praise. The Love who is the offspring of the common Aphrodite is
[373] essentially common, and has no discrimination, being such as the meaner
[374] sort of men feel, and is apt to be of women as well as of youths, and is of
[375] the body rather than of the soul--the most foolish beings are the objects
[376] of this love which desires only to gain an end, but never thinks of
[377] accomplishing the end nobly, and therefore does good and evil quite
[378] indiscriminately. The goddess who is his mother is far younger than the
[379] other, and she was born of the union of the male and female, and partakes
[380] of both. But the offspring of the heavenly Aphrodite is derived from a
[381] mother in whose birth the female has no part,--she is from the male only;
[382] this is that love which is of youths, and the goddess being older, there is
[383] nothing of wantonness in her. Those who are inspired by this love turn to
[384] the male, and delight in him who is the more valiant and intelligent
[385] nature; any one may recognise the pure enthusiasts in the very character of
[386] their attachments. For they love not boys, but intelligent beings whose
[387] reason is beginning to be developed, much about the time at which their
[388] beards begin to grow. And in choosing young men to be their companions,
[389] they mean to be faithful to them, and pass their whole life in company with
[390] them, not to take them in their inexperience, and deceive them, and play
[391] the fool with them, or run away from one to another of them. But the love
[392] of young boys should be forbidden by law, because their future is
[393] uncertain; they may turn out good or bad, either in body or soul, and much
[394] noble enthusiasm may be thrown away upon them; in this matter the good are
[395] a law to themselves, and the coarser sort of lovers ought to be restrained
[396] by force; as we restrain or attempt to restrain them from fixing their
[397] affections on women of free birth. These are the persons who bring a
[398] reproach on love; and some have been led to deny the lawfulness of such
[399] attachments because they see the impropriety and evil of them; for surely
[400] nothing that is decorously and lawfully done can justly be censured. Now
[401] here and in Lacedaemon the rules about love are perplexing, but in most
[402] cities they are simple and easily intelligible; in Elis and Boeotia, and in
[403] countries having no gifts of eloquence, they are very straightforward; the
[404] law is simply in favour of these connexions, and no one, whether young or
[405] old, has anything to say to their discredit; the reason being, as I
[406] suppose, that they are men of few words in those parts, and therefore the
[407] lovers do not like the trouble of pleading their suit. In Ionia and other
[408] places, and generally in countries which are subject to the barbarians, the
[409] custom is held to be dishonourable; loves of youths share the evil repute
[410] in which philosophy and gymnastics are held, because they are inimical to
[411] tyranny; for the interests of rulers require that their subjects should be
[412] poor in spirit (compare Arist. Politics), and that there should be no
[413] strong bond of friendship or society among them, which love, above all
[414] other motives, is likely to inspire, as our Athenian tyrants learned by
[415] experience; for the love of Aristogeiton and the constancy of Harmodius had
[416] a strength which undid their power. And, therefore, the ill-repute into
[417] which these attachments have fallen is to be ascribed to the evil condition
[418] of those who make them to be ill-reputed; that is to say, to the self-
[419] seeking of the governors and the cowardice of the governed; on the other
[420] hand, the indiscriminate honour which is given to them in some countries is
[421] attributable to the laziness of those who hold this opinion of them. In
[422] our own country a far better principle prevails, but, as I was saying, the
[423] explanation of it is rather perplexing. For, observe that open loves are
[424] held to be more honourable than secret ones, and that the love of the
[425] noblest and highest, even if their persons are less beautiful than others,
[426] is especially honourable. Consider, too, how great is the encouragement
[427] which all the world gives to the lover; neither is he supposed to be doing
[428] anything dishonourable; but if he succeeds he is praised, and if he fail he
[429] is blamed. And in the pursuit of his love the custom of mankind allows him
[430] to do many strange things, which philosophy would bitterly censure if they
[431] were done from any motive of interest, or wish for office or power. He may
[432] pray, and entreat, and supplicate, and swear, and lie on a mat at the door,
[433] and endure a slavery worse than that of any slave--in any other case
[434] friends and enemies would be equally ready to prevent him, but now there is
[435] no friend who will be ashamed of him and admonish him, and no enemy will
[436] charge him with meanness or flattery; the actions of a lover have a grace
[437] which ennobles them; and custom has decided that they are highly
[438] commendable and that there no loss of character in them; and, what is
[439] strangest of all, he only may swear and forswear himself (so men say), and
[440] the gods will forgive his transgression, for there is no such thing as a
[441] lover's oath. Such is the entire liberty which gods and men have allowed
[442] the lover, according to the custom which prevails in our part of the world.
[443] From this point of view a man fairly argues that in Athens to love and to
[444] be loved is held to be a very honourable thing. But when parents forbid
[445] their sons to talk with their lovers, and place them under a tutor's care,
[446] who is appointed to see to these things, and their companions and equals
[447] cast in their teeth anything of the sort which they may observe, and their
[448] elders refuse to silence the reprovers and do not rebuke them--any one who
[449] reflects on all this will, on the contrary, think that we hold these
[450] practices to be most disgraceful. But, as I was saying at first, the truth
[451] as I imagine is, that whether such practices are honourable or whether they
[452] are dishonourable is not a simple question; they are honourable to him who
[453] follows them honourably, dishonourable to him who follows them
[454] dishonourably. There is dishonour in yielding to the evil, or in an evil
[455] manner; but there is honour in yielding to the good, or in an honourable
[456] manner. Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul,
[457] inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in
[458] itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was
[459] desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words
[460] and promises; whereas the love of the noble disposition is life-long, for
[461] it becomes one with the everlasting. The custom of our country would have
[462] both of them proven well and truly, and would have us yield to the one sort
[463] of lover and avoid the other, and therefore encourages some to pursue, and
[464] others to fly; testing both the lover and beloved in contests and trials,
[465] until they show to which of the two classes they respectively belong. And
[466] this is the reason why, in the first place, a hasty attachment is held to
[467] be dishonourable, because time is the true test of this as of most other
[468] things; and secondly there is a dishonour in being overcome by the love of
[469] money, or of wealth, or of political power, whether a man is frightened
[470] into surrender by the loss of them, or, having experienced the benefits of
[471] money and political corruption, is unable to rise above the seductions of
[472] them. For none of these things are of a permanent or lasting nature; not
[473] to mention that no generous friendship ever sprang from them. There
[474] remains, then, only one way of honourable attachment which custom allows in
[475] the beloved, and this is the way of virtue; for as we admitted that any
[476] service which the lover does to him is not to be accounted flattery or a
[477] dishonour to himself, so the beloved has one way only of voluntary service
[478] which is not dishonourable, and this is virtuous service.
[479]
[480] For we have a custom, and according to our custom any one who does service
[481] to another under the idea that he will be improved by him either in wisdom,
[482] or in some other particular of virtue--such a voluntary service, I say, is
[483] not to be regarded as a dishonour, and is not open to the charge of
[484] flattery. And these two customs, one the love of youth, and the other the
[485] practice of philosophy and virtue in general, ought to meet in one, and
[486] then the beloved may honourably indulge the lover. For when the lover and
[487] beloved come together, having each of them a law, and the lover thinks that
[488] he is right in doing any service which he can to his gracious loving one;
[489] and the other that he is right in showing any kindness which he can to him
[490] who is making him wise and good; the one capable of communicating wisdom
[491] and virtue, the other seeking to acquire them with a view to education and
[492] wisdom, when the two laws of love are fulfilled and meet in one--then, and
[493] then only, may the beloved yield with honour to the lover. Nor when love
[494] is of this disinterested sort is there any disgrace in being deceived, but
[495] in every other case there is equal disgrace in being or not being deceived.
[496] For he who is gracious to his lover under the impression that he is rich,
[497] and is disappointed of his gains because he turns out to be poor, is
[498] disgraced all the same: for he has done his best to show that he would
[499] give himself up to any one's 'uses base' for the sake of money; but this is
[500] not honourable. And on the same principle he who gives himself to a lover
[501] because he is a good man, and in the hope that he will be improved by his
[502] company, shows himself to be virtuous, even though the object of his
[503] affection turn out to be a villain, and to have no virtue; and if he is
[504] deceived he has committed a noble error. For he has proved that for his
[505] part he will do anything for anybody with a view to virtue and improvement,
[506] than which there can be nothing nobler. Thus noble in every case is the
[507] acceptance of another for the sake of virtue. This is that love which is
[508] the love of the heavenly godess, and is heavenly, and of great price to
[509] individuals and cities, making the lover and the beloved alike eager in the
[510] work of their own improvement. But all other loves are the offspring of
[511] the other, who is the common goddess. To you, Phaedrus, I offer this my
[512] contribution in praise of love, which is as good as I could make extempore.
[513]
[514] Pausanias came to a pause--this is the balanced way in which I have been
[515] taught by the wise to speak; and Aristodemus said that the turn of
[516] Aristophanes was next, but either he had eaten too much, or from some other
[517] cause he had the hiccough, and was obliged to change turns with Eryximachus
[518] the physician, who was reclining on the couch below him. Eryximachus, he
[519] said, you ought either to stop my hiccough, or to speak in my turn until I
[520] have left off.
[521]
[522] I will do both, said Eryximachus: I will speak in your turn, and do you
[523] speak in mine; and while I am speaking let me recommend you to hold your
[524] breath, and if after you have done so for some time the hiccough is no
[525] better, then gargle with a little water; and if it still continues, tickle
[526] your nose with something and sneeze; and if you sneeze once or twice, even
[527] the most violent hiccough is sure to go. I will do as you prescribe, said
[528] Aristophanes, and now get on.
[529]
[530] Eryximachus spoke as follows: Seeing that Pausanias made a fair beginning,
[531] and but a lame ending, I must endeavour to supply his deficiency. I think
[532] that he has rightly distinguished two kinds of love. But my art further
[533] informs me that the double love is not merely an affection of the soul of
[534] man towards the fair, or towards anything, but is to be found in the bodies
[535] of all animals and in productions of the earth, and I may say in all that
[536] is; such is the conclusion which I seem to have gathered from my own art of
[537] medicine, whence I learn how great and wonderful and universal is the deity
[538] of love, whose empire extends over all things, divine as well as human.
[539] And from medicine I will begin that I may do honour to my art. There are
[540] in the human body these two kinds of love, which are confessedly different
[541] and unlike, and being unlike, they have loves and desires which are unlike;
[542] and the desire of the healthy is one, and the desire of the diseased is
[543] another; and as Pausanias was just now saying that to indulge good men is
[544] honourable, and bad men dishonourable:--so too in the body the good and
[545] healthy elements are to be indulged, and the bad elements and the elements
[546] of disease are not to be indulged, but discouraged. And this is what the
[547] physician has to do, and in this the art of medicine consists: for
[548] medicine may be regarded generally as the knowledge of the loves and
[549] desires of the body, and how to satisfy them or not; and the best physician
[550] is he who is able to separate fair love from foul, or to convert one into
[551] the other; and he who knows how to eradicate and how to implant love,
[552] whichever is required, and can reconcile the most hostile elements in the
[553] constitution and make them loving friends, is a skilful practitioner. Now
[554] the most hostile are the most opposite, such as hot and cold, bitter and
[555] sweet, moist and dry, and the like. And my ancestor, Asclepius, knowing
[556] how to implant friendship and accord in these elements, was the creator of
[557] our art, as our friends the poets here tell us, and I believe them; and not
[558] only medicine in every branch but the arts of gymnastic and husbandry are
[559] under his dominion. Any one who pays the least attention to the subject
[560] will also perceive that in music there is the same reconciliation of
[561] opposites; and I suppose that this must have been the meaning of
[562] Heracleitus, although his words are not accurate; for he says that The One
[563] is united by disunion, like the harmony of the bow and the lyre. Now there
[564] is an absurdity saying that harmony is discord or is composed of elements
[565] which are still in a state of discord. But what he probably meant was,
[566] that harmony is composed of differing notes of higher or lower pitch which
[567] disagreed once, but are now reconciled by the art of music; for if the
[568] higher and lower notes still disagreed, there could be no harmony,--clearly
[569] not. For harmony is a symphony, and symphony is an agreement; but an
[570] agreement of disagreements while they disagree there cannot be; you cannot
[571] harmonize that which disagrees. In like manner rhythm is compounded of
[572] elements short and long, once differing and now in accord; which
[573] accordance, as in the former instance, medicine, so in all these other
[574] cases, music implants, making love and unison to grow up among them; and
[575] thus music, too, is concerned with the principles of love in their
[576] application to harmony and rhythm. Again, in the essential nature of
[577] harmony and rhythm there is no difficulty in discerning love which has not
[578] yet become double. But when you want to use them in actual life, either in
[579] the composition of songs or in the correct performance of airs or metres
[580] composed already, which latter is called education, then the difficulty
[581] begins, and the good artist is needed. Then the old tale has to be
[582] repeated of fair and heavenly love--the love of Urania the fair and
[583] heavenly muse, and of the duty of accepting the temperate, and those who
[584] are as yet intemperate only that they may become temperate, and of
[585] preserving their love; and again, of the vulgar Polyhymnia, who must be
[586] used with circumspection that the pleasure be enjoyed, but may not generate
[587] licentiousness; just as in my own art it is a great matter so to regulate
[588] the desires of the epicure that he may gratify his tastes without the
[589] attendant evil of disease. Whence I infer that in music, in medicine, in
[590] all other things human as well as divine, both loves ought to be noted as
[591] far as may be, for they are both present.
[592]
[593] The course of the seasons is also full of both these principles; and when,
[594] as I was saying, the elements of hot and cold, moist and dry, attain the
[595] harmonious love of one another and blend in temperance and harmony, they
[596] bring to men, animals, and plants health and plenty, and do them no harm;
[597] whereas the wanton love, getting the upper hand and affecting the seasons
[598] of the year, is very destructive and injurious, being the source of
[599] pestilence, and bringing many other kinds of diseases on animals and
[600] plants; for hoar-frost and hail and blight spring from the excesses and
[601] disorders of these elements of love, which to know in relation to the
[602] revolutions of the heavenly bodies and the seasons of the year is termed
[603] astronomy. Furthermore all sacrifices and the whole province of
[604] divination, which is the art of communion between gods and men--these, I
[605] say, are concerned only with the preservation of the good and the cure of
[606] the evil love. For all manner of impiety is likely to ensue if, instead of
[607] accepting and honouring and reverencing the harmonious love in all his
[608] actions, a man honours the other love, whether in his feelings towards gods
[609] or parents, towards the living or the dead. Wherefore the business of
[610] divination is to see to these loves and to heal them, and divination is the
[611] peacemaker of gods and men, working by a knowledge of the religious or
[612] irreligious tendencies which exist in human loves. Such is the great and
[613] mighty, or rather omnipotent force of love in general. And the love, more
[614] especially, which is concerned with the good, and which is perfected in
[615] company with temperance and justice, whether among gods or men, has the
[616] greatest power, and is the source of all our happiness and harmony, and
[617] makes us friends with the gods who are above us, and with one another. I
[618] dare say that I too have omitted several things which might be said in
[619] praise of Love, but this was not intentional, and you, Aristophanes, may
[620] now supply the omission or take some other line of commendation; for I
[621] perceive that you are rid of the hiccough.
[622]
[623] Yes, said Aristophanes, who followed, the hiccough is gone; not, however,
[624] until I applied the sneezing; and I wonder whether the harmony of the body
[625] has a love of such noises and ticklings, for I no sooner applied the
[626] sneezing than I was cured.
[627]
[628] Eryximachus said: Beware, friend Aristophanes, although you are going to
[629] speak, you are making fun of me; and I shall have to watch and see whether
[630] I cannot have a laugh at your expense, when you might speak in peace.
[631]
[632] You are right, said Aristophanes, laughing. I will unsay my words; but do
[633] you please not to watch me, as I fear that in the speech which I am about
[634] to make, instead of others laughing with me, which is to the manner born of
[635] our muse and would be all the better, I shall only be laughed at by them.
[636]
[637] Do you expect to shoot your bolt and escape, Aristophanes? Well, perhaps
[638] if you are very careful and bear in mind that you will be called to
[639] account, I may be induced to let you off.
[640]
[641] Aristophanes professed to open another vein of discourse; he had a mind to
[642] praise Love in another way, unlike that either of Pausanias or Eryximachus.
[643] Mankind, he said, judging by their neglect of him, have never, as I think,
[644] at all understood the power of Love. For if they had understood him they
[645] would surely have built noble temples and altars, and offered solemn
[646] sacrifices in his honour; but this is not done, and most certainly ought to
[647] be done: since of all the gods he is the best friend of men, the helper
[648] and the healer of the ills which are the great impediment to the happiness
[649] of the race. I will try to describe his power to you, and you shall teach
[650] the rest of the world what I am teaching you. In the first place, let me
[651] treat of the nature of man and what has happened to it; for the original
[652] human nature was not like the present, but different. The sexes were not
[653] two as they are now, but originally three in number; there was man, woman,
[654] and the union of the two, having a name corresponding to this double
[655] nature, which had once a real existence, but is now lost, and the word
[656] 'Androgynous' is only preserved as a term of reproach. In the second
[657] place, the primeval man was round, his back and sides forming a circle; and
[658] he had four hands and four feet, one head with two faces, looking opposite
[659] ways, set on a round neck and precisely alike; also four ears, two privy
[660] members, and the remainder to correspond. He could walk upright as men now
[661] do, backwards or forwards as he pleased, and he could also roll over and
[662] over at a great pace, turning on his four hands and four feet, eight in
[663] all, like tumblers going over and over with their legs in the air; this was
[664] when he wanted to run fast. Now the sexes were three, and such as I have
[665] described them; because the sun, moon, and earth are three; and the man was
[666] originally the child of the sun, the woman of the earth, and the man-woman
[667] of the moon, which is made up of sun and earth, and they were all round and
[668] moved round and round like their parents. Terrible was their might and
[669] strength, and the thoughts of their hearts were great, and they made an
[670] attack upon the gods; of them is told the tale of Otys and Ephialtes who,
[671] as Homer says, dared to scale heaven, and would have laid hands upon the
[672] gods. Doubt reigned in the celestial councils. Should they kill them and
[673] annihilate the race with thunderbolts, as they had done the giants, then
[674] there would be an end of the sacrifices and worship which men offered to
[675] them; but, on the other hand, the gods could not suffer their insolence to
[676] be unrestrained. At last, after a good deal of reflection, Zeus discovered
[677] a way. He said: 'Methinks I have a plan which will humble their pride and
[678] improve their manners; men shall continue to exist, but I will cut them in
[679] two and then they will be diminished in strength and increased in numbers;
[680] this will have the advantage of making them more profitable to us. They
[681] shall walk upright on two legs, and if they continue insolent and will not
[682] be quiet, I will split them again and they shall hop about on a single
[683] leg.' He spoke and cut men in two, like a sorb-apple which is halved for
[684] pickling, or as you might divide an egg with a hair; and as he cut them one
[685] after another, he bade Apollo give the face and the half of the neck a turn
[686] in order that the man might contemplate the section of himself: he would
[687] thus learn a lesson of humility. Apollo was also bidden to heal their
[688] wounds and compose their forms. So he gave a turn to the face and pulled
[689] the skin from the sides all over that which in our language is called the
[690] belly, like the purses which draw in, and he made one mouth at the centre,
[691] which he fastened in a knot (the same which is called the navel); he also
[692] moulded the breast and took out most of the wrinkles, much as a shoemaker
[693] might smooth leather upon a last; he left a few, however, in the region of
[694] the belly and navel, as a memorial of the primeval state. After the
[695] division the two parts of man, each desiring his other half, came together,
[696] and throwing their arms about one another, entwined in mutual embraces,
[697] longing to grow into one, they were on the point of dying from hunger and
[698] self-neglect, because they did not like to do anything apart; and when one
[699] of the halves died and the other survived, the survivor sought another
[700] mate, man or woman as we call them,--being the sections of entire men or
[701] women,--and clung to that. They were being destroyed, when Zeus in pity of
[702] them invented a new plan: he turned the parts of generation round to the
[703] front, for this had not been always their position, and they sowed the seed
[704] no longer as hitherto like grasshoppers in the ground, but in one another;
[705] and after the transposition the male generated in the female in order that
[706] by the mutual embraces of man and woman they might breed, and the race
[707] might continue; or if man came to man they might be satisfied, and rest,
[708] and go their ways to the business of life: so ancient is the desire of one
[709] another which is implanted in us, reuniting our original nature, making one
[710] of two, and healing the state of man. Each of us when separated, having
[711] one side only, like a flat fish, is but the indenture of a man, and he is
[712] always looking for his other half. Men who are a section of that double
[713] nature which was once called Androgynous are lovers of women; adulterers
[714] are generally of this breed, and also adulterous women who lust after men:
[715] the women who are a section of the woman do not care for men, but have
[716] female attachments; the female companions are of this sort. But they who
[717] are a section of the male follow the male, and while they are young, being
[718] slices of the original man, they hang about men and embrace them, and they
[719] are themselves the best of boys and youths, because they have the most
[720] manly nature. Some indeed assert that they are shameless, but this is not
[721] true; for they do not act thus from any want of shame, but because they are
[722] valiant and manly, and have a manly countenance, and they embrace that
[723] which is like them. And these when they grow up become our statesmen, and
[724] these only, which is a great proof of the truth of what I am saving. When
[725] they reach manhood they are lovers of youth, and are not naturally inclined
[726] to marry or beget children,--if at all, they do so only in obedience to the
[727] law; but they are satisfied if they may be allowed to live with one another
[728] unwedded; and such a nature is prone to love and ready to return love,
[729] always embracing that which is akin to him. And when one of them meets
[730] with his other half, the actual half of himself, whether he be a lover of
[731] youth or a lover of another sort, the pair are lost in an amazement of love
[732] and friendship and intimacy, and one will not be out of the other's sight,
[733] as I may say, even for a moment: these are the people who pass their whole
[734] lives together; yet they could not explain what they desire of one another.
[735] For the intense yearning which each of them has towards the other does not
[736] appear to be the desire of lover's intercourse, but of something else which
[737] the soul of either evidently desires and cannot tell, and of which she has
[738] only a dark and doubtful presentiment. Suppose Hephaestus, with his
[739] instruments, to come to the pair who are lying side by side and to say to
[740] them, 'What do you people want of one another?' they would be unable to
[741] explain. And suppose further, that when he saw their perplexity he said:
[742] 'Do you desire to be wholly one; always day and night to be in one
[743] another's company? for if this is what you desire, I am ready to melt you
[744] into one and let you grow together, so that being two you shall become one,
[745] and while you live live a common life as if you were a single man, and
[746] after your death in the world below still be one departed soul instead of
[747] two--I ask whether this is what you lovingly desire, and whether you are
[748] satisfied to attain this?'--there is not a man of them who when he heard
[749] the proposal would deny or would not acknowledge that this meeting and
[750] melting into one another, this becoming one instead of two, was the very
[751] expression of his ancient need (compare Arist. Pol.). And the reason is
[752] that human nature was originally one and we were a whole, and the desire
[753] and pursuit of the whole is called love. There was a time, I say, when we
[754] were one, but now because of the wickedness of mankind God has dispersed
[755] us, as the Arcadians were dispersed into villages by the Lacedaemonians
[756] (compare Arist. Pol.). And if we are not obedient to the gods, there is a
[757] danger that we shall be split up again and go about in basso-relievo, like
[758] the profile figures having only half a nose which are sculptured on
[759] monuments, and that we shall be like tallies. Wherefore let us exhort all
[760] men to piety, that we may avoid evil, and obtain the good, of which Love is
[761] to us the lord and minister; and let no one oppose him--he is the enemy of
[762] the gods who opposes him. For if we are friends of the God and at peace
[763] with him we shall find our own true loves, which rarely happens in this
[764] world at present. I am serious, and therefore I must beg Eryximachus not
[765] to make fun or to find any allusion in what I am saying to Pausanias and
[766] Agathon, who, as I suspect, are both of the manly nature, and belong to the
[767] class which I have been describing. But my words have a wider application
[768] --they include men and women everywhere; and I believe that if our loves
[769] were perfectly accomplished, and each one returning to his primeval nature
[770] had his original true love, then our race would be happy. And if this
[771] would be best of all, the best in the next degree and under present
[772] circumstances must be the nearest approach to such an union; and that will
[773] be the attainment of a congenial love. Wherefore, if we would praise him
[774] who has given to us the benefit, we must praise the god Love, who is our
[775] greatest benefactor, both leading us in this life back to our own nature,
[776] and giving us high hopes for the future, for he promises that if we are
[777] pious, he will restore us to our original state, and heal us and make us
[778] happy and blessed. This, Eryximachus, is my discourse of love, which,
[779] although different to yours, I must beg you to leave unassailed by the
[780] shafts of your ridicule, in order that each may have his turn; each, or
[781] rather either, for Agathon and Socrates are the only ones left.
[782]
[783] Indeed, I am not going to attack you, said Eryximachus, for I thought your
[784] speech charming, and did I not know that Agathon and Socrates are masters
[785] in the art of love, I should be really afraid that they would have nothing
[786] to say, after the world of things which have been said already. But, for
[787] all that, I am not without hopes.
[788]
[789] Socrates said: You played your part well, Eryximachus; but if you were as
[790] I am now, or rather as I shall be when Agathon has spoken, you would,
[791] indeed, be in a great strait.
[792]
[793] You want to cast a spell over me, Socrates, said Agathon, in the hope that
[794] I may be disconcerted at the expectation raised among the audience that I
[795] shall speak well.
[796]
[797] I should be strangely forgetful, Agathon replied Socrates, of the courage
[798] and magnanimity which you showed when your own compositions were about to
[799] be exhibited, and you came upon the stage with the actors and faced the
[800] vast theatre altogether undismayed, if I thought that your nerves could be
[801] fluttered at a small party of friends.
[802]
[803] Do you think, Socrates, said Agathon, that my head is so full of the
[804] theatre as not to know how much more formidable to a man of sense a few
[805] good judges are than many fools?
[806]
[807] Nay, replied Socrates, I should be very wrong in attributing to you,
[808] Agathon, that or any other want of refinement. And I am quite aware that
[809] if you happened to meet with any whom you thought wise, you would care for
[810] their opinion much more than for that of the many. But then we, having
[811] been a part of the foolish many in the theatre, cannot be regarded as the
[812] select wise; though I know that if you chanced to be in the presence, not
[813] of one of ourselves, but of some really wise man, you would be ashamed of
[814] disgracing yourself before him--would you not?
[815]
[816] Yes, said Agathon.
[817]
[818] But before the many you would not be ashamed, if you thought that you were
[819] doing something disgraceful in their presence?
[820]
[821] Here Phaedrus interrupted them, saying: not answer him, my dear Agathon;
[822] for if he can only get a partner with whom he can talk, especially a good-
[823] looking one, he will no longer care about the completion of our plan. Now
[824] I love to hear him talk; but just at present I must not forget the encomium
[825] on Love which I ought to receive from him and from every one. When you and
[826] he have paid your tribute to the god, then you may talk.
[827]
[828] Very good, Phaedrus, said Agathon; I see no reason why I should not proceed
[829] with my speech, as I shall have many other opportunities of conversing with
[830] Socrates. Let me say first how I ought to speak, and then speak:--
[831]
[832] The previous speakers, instead of praising the god Love, or unfolding his
[833] nature, appear to have congratulated mankind on the benefits which he
[834] confers upon them. But I would rather praise the god first, and then speak
[835] of his gifts; this is always the right way of praising everything. May I
[836] say without impiety or offence, that of all the blessed gods he is the most
[837] blessed because he is the fairest and best? And he is the fairest: for,
[838] in the first place, he is the youngest, and of his youth he is himself the
[839] witness, fleeing out of the way of age, who is swift enough, swifter truly
[840] than most of us like:--Love hates him and will not come near him; but youth
[841] and love live and move together--like to like, as the proverb says. Many
[842] things were said by Phaedrus about Love in which I agree with him; but I
[843] cannot agree that he is older than Iapetus and Kronos:--not so; I maintain
[844] him to be the youngest of the gods, and youthful ever. The ancient doings
[845] among the gods of which Hesiod and Parmenides spoke, if the tradition of
[846] them be true, were done of Necessity and not of Love; had Love been in
[847] those days, there would have been no chaining or mutilation of the gods, or
[848] other violence, but peace and sweetness, as there is now in heaven, since
[849] the rule of Love began. Love is young and also tender; he ought to have a
[850] poet like Homer to describe his tenderness, as Homer says of Ate, that she
[851] is a goddess and tender:--
[852]
[853] 'Her feet are tender, for she sets her steps,
[854] Not on the ground but on the heads of men:'
[855]
[856] herein is an excellent proof of her tenderness,--that she walks not upon
[857] the hard but upon the soft. Let us adduce a similar proof of the
[858] tenderness of Love; for he walks not upon the earth, nor yet upon the
[859] skulls of men, which are not so very soft, but in the hearts and souls of
[860] both gods and men, which are of all things the softest: in them he walks
[861] and dwells and makes his home. Not in every soul without exception, for
[862] where there is hardness he departs, where there is softness there he
[863] dwells; and nestling always with his feet and in all manner of ways in the
[864] softest of soft places, how can he be other than the softest of all things?
[865] Of a truth he is the tenderest as well as the youngest, and also he is of
[866] flexile form; for if he were hard and without flexure he could not enfold
[867] all things, or wind his way into and out of every soul of man undiscovered.
[868] And a proof of his flexibility and symmetry of form is his grace, which is
[869] universally admitted to be in an especial manner the attribute of Love;
[870] ungrace and love are always at war with one another. The fairness of his
[871] complexion is revealed by his habitation among the flowers; for he dwells
[872] not amid bloomless or fading beauties, whether of body or soul or aught
[873] else, but in the place of flowers and scents, there he sits and abides.
[874] Concerning the beauty of the god I have said enough; and yet there remains
[875] much more which I might say. Of his virtue I have now to speak: his
[876] greatest glory is that he can neither do nor suffer wrong to or from any
[877] god or any man; for he suffers not by force if he suffers; force comes not
[878] near him, neither when he acts does he act by force. For all men in all
[879] things serve him of their own free will, and where there is voluntary
[880] agreement, there, as the laws which are the lords of the city say, is
[881] justice. And not only is he just but exceedingly temperate, for Temperance
[882] is the acknowledged ruler of the pleasures and desires, and no pleasure
[883] ever masters Love; he is their master and they are his servants; and if he
[884] conquers them he must be temperate indeed. As to courage, even the God of
[885] War is no match for him; he is the captive and Love is the lord, for love,
[886] the love of Aphrodite, masters him, as the tale runs; and the master is
[887] stronger than the servant. And if he conquers the bravest of all others,
[888] he must be himself the bravest. Of his courage and justice and temperance
[889] I have spoken, but I have yet to speak of his wisdom; and according to the
[890] measure of my ability I must try to do my best. In the first place he is a
[891] poet (and here, like Eryximachus, I magnify my art), and he is also the
[892] source of poesy in others, which he could not be if he were not himself a
[893] poet. And at the touch of him every one becomes a poet, even though he had
[894] no music in him before (A fragment of the Sthenoaoea of Euripides.); this
[895] also is a proof that Love is a good poet and accomplished in all the fine
[896] arts; for no one can give to another that which he has not himself, or
[897] teach that of which he has no knowledge. Who will deny that the creation
[898] of the animals is his doing? Are they not all the works of his wisdom,
[899] born and begotten of him? And as to the artists, do we not know that he
[900] only of them whom love inspires has the light of fame?--he whom Love
[901] touches not walks in darkness. The arts of medicine and archery and
[902] divination were discovered by Apollo, under the guidance of love and
[903] desire; so that he too is a disciple of Love. Also the melody of the
[904] Muses, the metallurgy of Hephaestus, the weaving of Athene, the empire of
[905] Zeus over gods and men, are all due to Love, who was the inventor of them.
[906] And so Love set in order the empire of the gods--the love of beauty, as is
[907] evident, for with deformity Love has no concern. In the days of old, as I
[908] began by saying, dreadful deeds were done among the gods, for they were
[909] ruled by Necessity; but now since the birth of Love, and from the Love of
[910] the beautiful, has sprung every good in heaven and earth. Therefore,
[911] Phaedrus, I say of Love that he is the fairest and best in himself, and the
[912] cause of what is fairest and best in all other things. And there comes
[913] into my mind a line of poetry in which he is said to be the god who
[914]
[915] 'Gives peace on earth and calms the stormy deep,
[916] Who stills the winds and bids the sufferer sleep.'
[917]
[918] This is he who empties men of disaffection and fills them with affection,
[919] who makes them to meet together at banquets such as these: in sacrifices,
[920] feasts, dances, he is our lord--who sends courtesy and sends away
[921] discourtesy, who gives kindness ever and never gives unkindness; the friend
[922] of the good, the wonder of the wise, the amazement of the gods; desired by
[923] those who have no part in him, and precious to those who have the better
[924] part in him; parent of delicacy, luxury, desire, fondness, softness, grace;
[925] regardful of the good, regardless of the evil: in every word, work, wish,
[926] fear--saviour, pilot, comrade, helper; glory of gods and men, leader best
[927] and brightest: in whose footsteps let every man follow, sweetly singing in
[928] his honour and joining in that sweet strain with which love charms the
[929] souls of gods and men. Such is the speech, Phaedrus, half-playful, yet
[930] having a certain measure of seriousness, which, according to my ability, I
[931] dedicate to the god.
[932]
[933] When Agathon had done speaking, Aristodemus said that there was a general
[934] cheer; the young man was thought to have spoken in a manner worthy of
[935] himself, and of the god. And Socrates, looking at Eryximachus, said: Tell
[936] me, son of Acumenus, was there not reason in my fears? and was I not a true
[937] prophet when I said that Agathon would make a wonderful oration, and that I
[938] should be in a strait?
[939]
[940] The part of the prophecy which concerns Agathon, replied Eryximachus,
[941] appears to me to be true; but not the other part--that you will be in a
[942] strait.
[943]
[944] Why, my dear friend, said Socrates, must not I or any one be in a strait
[945] who has to speak after he has heard such a rich and varied discourse? I am
[946] especially struck with the beauty of the concluding words--who could listen
[947] to them without amazement? When I reflected on the immeasurable
[948] inferiority of my own powers, I was ready to run away for shame, if there
[949] had been a possibility of escape. For I was reminded of Gorgias, and at
[950] the end of his speech I fancied that Agathon was shaking at me the
[951] Gorginian or Gorgonian head of the great master of rhetoric, which was
[952] simply to turn me and my speech into stone, as Homer says (Odyssey), and
[953] strike me dumb. And then I perceived how foolish I had been in consenting
[954] to take my turn with you in praising love, and saying that I too was a
[955] master of the art, when I really had no conception how anything ought to be
[956] praised. For in my simplicity I imagined that the topics of praise should
[957] be true, and that this being presupposed, out of the true the speaker was
[958] to choose the best and set them forth in the best manner. And I felt quite
[959] proud, thinking that I knew the nature of true praise, and should speak
[960] well. Whereas I now see that the intention was to attribute to Love every
[961] species of greatness and glory, whether really belonging to him or not,
[962] without regard to truth or falsehood--that was no matter; for the original
[963] proposal seems to have been not that each of you should really praise Love,
[964] but only that you should appear to praise him. And so you attribute to
[965] Love every imaginable form of praise which can be gathered anywhere; and
[966] you say that 'he is all this,' and 'the cause of all that,' making him
[967] appear the fairest and best of all to those who know him not, for you
[968] cannot impose upon those who know him. And a noble and solemn hymn of
[969] praise have you rehearsed. But as I misunderstood the nature of the praise
[970] when I said that I would take my turn, I must beg to be absolved from the
[971] promise which I made in ignorance, and which (as Euripides would say
[972] (Eurip. Hyppolytus)) was a promise of the lips and not of the mind.
[973] Farewell then to such a strain: for I do not praise in that way; no,
[974] indeed, I cannot. But if you like to hear the truth about love, I am ready
[975] to speak in my own manner, though I will not make myself ridiculous by
[976] entering into any rivalry with you. Say then, Phaedrus, whether you would
[977] like to have the truth about love, spoken in any words and in any order
[978] which may happen to come into my mind at the time. Will that be agreeable
[979] to you?
[980]
[981] Aristodemus said that Phaedrus and the company bid him speak in any manner
[982] which he thought best. Then, he added, let me have your permission first
[983] to ask Agathon a few more questions, in order that I may take his
[984] admissions as the premisses of my discourse.
[985]
[986] I grant the permission, said Phaedrus: put your questions. Socrates then
[987] proceeded as follows:--
[988]
[989] In the magnificent oration which you have just uttered, I think that you
[990] were right, my dear Agathon, in proposing to speak of the nature of Love
[991] first and afterwards of his works--that is a way of beginning which I very
[992] much approve. And as you have spoken so eloquently of his nature, may I
[993] ask you further, Whether love is the love of something or of nothing? And
[994] here I must explain myself: I do not want you to say that love is the love
[995] of a father or the love of a mother--that would be ridiculous; but to
[996] answer as you would, if I asked is a father a father of something? to which
[997] you would find no difficulty in replying, of a son or daughter: and the
[998] answer would be right.
[999]
[1000] Very true, said Agathon.
[1001]
[1002] And you would say the same of a mother?
[1003]
[1004] He assented.
[1005]
[1006] Yet let me ask you one more question in order to illustrate my meaning: Is
[1007] not a brother to be regarded essentially as a brother of something?
[1008]
[1009] Certainly, he replied.
[1010]
[1011] That is, of a brother or sister?
[1012]
[1013] Yes, he said.
[1014]
[1015] And now, said Socrates, I will ask about Love:--Is Love of something or of
[1016] nothing?
[1017]
[1018] Of something, surely, he replied.
[1019]
[1020] Keep in mind what this is, and tell me what I want to know--whether Love
[1021] desires that of which love is.
[1022]
[1023] Yes, surely.
[1024]
[1025] And does he possess, or does he not possess, that which he loves and
[1026] desires?
[1027]
[1028] Probably not, I should say.
[1029]
[1030] Nay, replied Socrates, I would have you consider whether 'necessarily' is
[1031] not rather the word. The inference that he who desires something is in
[1032] want of something, and that he who desires nothing is in want of nothing,
[1033] is in my judgment, Agathon, absolutely and necessarily true. What do you
[1034] think?
[1035]
[1036] I agree with you, said Agathon.
[1037]
[1038] Very good. Would he who is great, desire to be great, or he who is strong,
[1039] desire to be strong?
[1040]
[1041] That would be inconsistent with our previous admissions.
[1042]
[1043] True. For he who is anything cannot want to be that which he is?
[1044]
[1045] Very true.
[1046]
[1047] And yet, added Socrates, if a man being strong desired to be strong, or
[1048] being swift desired to be swift, or being healthy desired to be healthy, in
[1049] that case he might be thought to desire something which he already has or
[1050] is. I give the example in order that we may avoid misconception. For the
[1051] possessors of these qualities, Agathon, must be supposed to have their
[1052] respective advantages at the time, whether they choose or not; and who can
[1053] desire that which he has? Therefore, when a person says, I am well and
[1054] wish to be well, or I am rich and wish to be rich, and I desire simply to
[1055] have what I have--to him we shall reply: 'You, my friend, having wealth
[1056] and health and strength, want to have the continuance of them; for at this
[1057] moment, whether you choose or no, you have them. And when you say, I
[1058] desire that which I have and nothing else, is not your meaning that you
[1059] want to have what you now have in the future?' He must agree with us--must
[1060] he not?
[1061]
[1062] He must, replied Agathon.
[1063]
[1064] Then, said Socrates, he desires that what he has at present may be
[1065] preserved to him in the future, which is equivalent to saying that he
[1066] desires something which is non-existent to him, and which as yet he has not
[1067] got:
[1068]
[1069] Very true, he said.
[1070]
[1071] Then he and every one who desires, desires that which he has not already,
[1072] and which is future and not present, and which he has not, and is not, and
[1073] of which he is in want;--these are the sort of things which love and desire
[1074] seek?
[1075]
[1076] Very true, he said.
[1077]
[1078] Then now, said Socrates, let us recapitulate the argument. First, is not
[1079] love of something, and of something too which is wanting to a man?
[1080]
[1081] Yes, he replied.
[1082]
[1083] Remember further what you said in your speech, or if you do not remember I
[1084] will remind you: you said that the love of the beautiful set in order the
[1085] empire of the gods, for that of deformed things there is no love--did you
[1086] not say something of that kind?
[1087]
[1088] Yes, said Agathon.
[1089]
[1090] Yes, my friend, and the remark was a just one. And if this is true, Love
[1091] is the love of beauty and not of deformity?
[1092]
[1093] He assented.
[1094]
[1095] And the admission has been already made that Love is of something which a
[1096] man wants and has not?
[1097]
[1098] True, he said.
[1099]
[1100] Then Love wants and has not beauty?
[1101]
[1102] Certainly, he replied.
[1103]
[1104] And would you call that beautiful which wants and does not possess beauty?
[1105]
[1106] Certainly not.
[1107]
[1108] Then would you still say that love is beautiful?
[1109]
[1110] Agathon replied: I fear that I did not understand what I was saying.
[1111]
[1112] You made a very good speech, Agathon, replied Socrates; but there is yet
[1113] one small question which I would fain ask:--Is not the good also the
[1114] beautiful?
[1115]
[1116] Yes.
[1117]
[1118] Then in wanting the beautiful, love wants also the good?
[1119]
[1120] I cannot refute you, Socrates, said Agathon:--Let us assume that what you
[1121] say is true.
[1122]
[1123] Say rather, beloved Agathon, that you cannot refute the truth; for Socrates
[1124] is easily refuted.
[1125]
[1126] And now, taking my leave of you, I would rehearse a tale of love which I
[1127] heard from Diotima of Mantineia (compare 1 Alcibiades), a woman wise in
[1128] this and in many other kinds of knowledge, who in the days of old, when the
[1129] Athenians offered sacrifice before the coming of the plague, delayed the
[1130] disease ten years. She was my instructress in the art of love, and I shall
[1131] repeat to you what she said to me, beginning with the admissions made by
[1132] Agathon, which are nearly if not quite the same which I made to the wise
[1133] woman when she questioned me: I think that this will be the easiest way,
[1134] and I shall take both parts myself as well as I can (compare Gorgias). As
[1135] you, Agathon, suggested (supra), I must speak first of the being and nature
[1136] of Love, and then of his works. First I said to her in nearly the same
[1137] words which he used to me, that Love was a mighty god, and likewise fair;
[1138] and she proved to me as I proved to him that, by my own showing, Love was
[1139] neither fair nor good. 'What do you mean, Diotima,' I said, 'is love then
[1140] evil and foul?' 'Hush,' she cried; 'must that be foul which is not fair?'
[1141] 'Certainly,' I said. 'And is that which is not wise, ignorant? do you not
[1142] see that there is a mean between wisdom and ignorance?' 'And what may that
[1143] be?' I said. 'Right opinion,' she replied; 'which, as you know, being
[1144] incapable of giving a reason, is not knowledge (for how can knowledge be
[1145] devoid of reason? nor again, ignorance, for neither can ignorance attain
[1146] the truth), but is clearly something which is a mean between ignorance and
[1147] wisdom.' 'Quite true,' I replied. 'Do not then insist,' she said, 'that
[1148] what is not fair is of necessity foul, or what is not good evil; or infer
[1149] that because love is not fair and good he is therefore foul and evil; for
[1150] he is in a mean between them.' 'Well,' I said, 'Love is surely admitted by
[1151] all to be a great god.' 'By those who know or by those who do not know?'
[1152] 'By all.' 'And how, Socrates,' she said with a smile, 'can Love be
[1153] acknowledged to be a great god by those who say that he is not a god at
[1154] all?' 'And who are they?' I said. 'You and I are two of them,' she
[1155] replied. 'How can that be?' I said. 'It is quite intelligible,' she
[1156] replied; 'for you yourself would acknowledge that the gods are happy and
[1157] fair--of course you would--would you dare to say that any god was not?'
[1158] 'Certainly not,' I replied. 'And you mean by the happy, those who are the
[1159] possessors of things good or fair?' 'Yes.' 'And you admitted that Love,
[1160] because he was in want, desires those good and fair things of which he is
[1161] in want?' 'Yes, I did.' 'But how can he be a god who has no portion in
[1162] what is either good or fair?' 'Impossible.' 'Then you see that you also
[1163] deny the divinity of Love.'
[1164]
[1165] 'What then is Love?' I asked; 'Is he mortal?' 'No.' 'What then?' 'As in
[1166] the former instance, he is neither mortal nor immortal, but in a mean
[1167] between the two.' 'What is he, Diotima?' 'He is a great spirit (daimon),
[1168] and like all spirits he is intermediate between the divine and the mortal.'
[1169] 'And what,' I said, 'is his power?' 'He interprets,' she replied, 'between
[1170] gods and men, conveying and taking across to the gods the prayers and
[1171] sacrifices of men, and to men the commands and replies of the gods; he is
[1172] the mediator who spans the chasm which divides them, and therefore in him
[1173] all is bound together, and through him the arts of the prophet and the
[1174] priest, their sacrifices and mysteries and charms, and all prophecy and
[1175] incantation, find their way. For God mingles not with man; but through
[1176] Love all the intercourse and converse of God with man, whether awake or
[1177] asleep, is carried on. The wisdom which understands this is spiritual; all
[1178] other wisdom, such as that of arts and handicrafts, is mean and vulgar.
[1179] Now these spirits or intermediate powers are many and diverse, and one of
[1180] them is Love.' 'And who,' I said, 'was his father, and who his mother?'
[1181] 'The tale,' she said, 'will take time; nevertheless I will tell you. On
[1182] the birthday of Aphrodite there was a feast of the gods, at which the god
[1183] Poros or Plenty, who is the son of Metis or Discretion, was one of the
[1184] guests. When the feast was over, Penia or Poverty, as the manner is on
[1185] such occasions, came about the doors to beg. Now Plenty who was the worse
[1186] for nectar (there was no wine in those days), went into the garden of Zeus
[1187] and fell into a heavy sleep, and Poverty considering her own straitened
[1188] circumstances, plotted to have a child by him, and accordingly she lay down
[1189] at his side and conceived Love, who partly because he is naturally a lover
[1190] of the beautiful, and because Aphrodite is herself beautiful, and also
[1191] because he was born on her birthday, is her follower and attendant. And as
[1192] his parentage is, so also are his fortunes. In the first place he is
[1193] always poor, and anything but tender and fair, as the many imagine him; and
[1194] he is rough and squalid, and has no shoes, nor a house to dwell in; on the
[1195] bare earth exposed he lies under the open heaven, in the streets, or at the
[1196] doors of houses, taking his rest; and like his mother he is always in
[1197] distress. Like his father too, whom he also partly resembles, he is always
[1198] plotting against the fair and good; he is bold, enterprising, strong, a
[1199] mighty hunter, always weaving some intrigue or other, keen in the pursuit
[1200] of wisdom, fertile in resources; a philosopher at all times, terrible as an
[1201] enchanter, sorcerer, sophist. He is by nature neither mortal nor immortal,
[1202] but alive and flourishing at one moment when he is in plenty, and dead at
[1203] another moment, and again alive by reason of his father's nature. But that
[1204] which is always flowing in is always flowing out, and so he is never in
[1205] want and never in wealth; and, further, he is in a mean between ignorance
[1206] and knowledge. The truth of the matter is this: No god is a philosopher
[1207] or seeker after wisdom, for he is wise already; nor does any man who is
[1208] wise seek after wisdom. Neither do the ignorant seek after wisdom. For
[1209] herein is the evil of ignorance, that he who is neither good nor wise is
[1210] nevertheless satisfied with himself: he has no desire for that of which he
[1211] feels no want.' 'But who then, Diotima,' I said, 'are the lovers of
[1212] wisdom, if they are neither the wise nor the foolish?' 'A child may answer
[1213] that question,' she replied; 'they are those who are in a mean between the
[1214] two; Love is one of them. For wisdom is a most beautiful thing, and Love
[1215] is of the beautiful; and therefore Love is also a philosopher or lover of
[1216] wisdom, and being a lover of wisdom is in a mean between the wise and the
[1217] ignorant. And of this too his birth is the cause; for his father is
[1218] wealthy and wise, and his mother poor and foolish. Such, my dear Socrates,
[1219] is the nature of the spirit Love. The error in your conception of him was
[1220] very natural, and as I imagine from what you say, has arisen out of a
[1221] confusion of love and the beloved, which made you think that love was all
[1222] beautiful. For the beloved is the truly beautiful, and delicate, and
[1223] perfect, and blessed; but the principle of love is of another nature, and
[1224] is such as I have described.'
[1225]
[1226] I said, 'O thou stranger woman, thou sayest well; but, assuming Love to be
[1227] such as you say, what is the use of him to men?' 'That, Socrates,' she
[1228] replied, 'I will attempt to unfold: of his nature and birth I have already
[1229] spoken; and you acknowledge that love is of the beautiful. But some one
[1230] will say: Of the beautiful in what, Socrates and Diotima?--or rather let
[1231] me put the question more clearly, and ask: When a man loves the beautiful,
[1232] what does he desire?' I answered her 'That the beautiful may be his.'
[1233] 'Still,' she said, 'the answer suggests a further question: What is given
[1234] by the possession of beauty?' 'To what you have asked,' I replied, 'I have
[1235] no answer ready.' 'Then,' she said, 'let me put the word "good" in the
[1236] place of the beautiful, and repeat the question once more: If he who loves
[1237] loves the good, what is it then that he loves?' 'The possession of the
[1238] good,' I said. 'And what does he gain who possesses the good?'
[1239] 'Happiness,' I replied; 'there is less difficulty in answering that
[1240] question.' 'Yes,' she said, 'the happy are made happy by the acquisition
[1241] of good things. Nor is there any need to ask why a man desires happiness;
[1242] the answer is already final.' 'You are right.' I said. 'And is this wish
[1243] and this desire common to all? and do all men always desire their own good,
[1244] or only some men?--what say you?' 'All men,' I replied; 'the desire is
[1245] common to all.' 'Why, then,' she rejoined, 'are not all men, Socrates,
[1246] said to love, but only some of them? whereas you say that all men are
[1247] always loving the same things.' 'I myself wonder,' I said, 'why this is.'
[1248] 'There is nothing to wonder at,' she replied; 'the reason is that one part
[1249] of love is separated off and receives the name of the whole, but the other
[1250] parts have other names.' 'Give an illustration,' I said. She answered me
[1251] as follows: 'There is poetry, which, as you know, is complex and manifold.
[1252] All creation or passage of non-being into being is poetry or making, and
[1253] the processes of all art are creative; and the masters of arts are all
[1254] poets or makers.' 'Very true.' 'Still,' she said, 'you know that they are
[1255] not called poets, but have other names; only that portion of the art which
[1256] is separated off from the rest, and is concerned with music and metre, is
[1257] termed poetry, and they who possess poetry in this sense of the word are
[1258] called poets.' 'Very true,' I said. 'And the same holds of love. For you
[1259] may say generally that all desire of good and happiness is only the great
[1260] and subtle power of love; but they who are drawn towards him by any other
[1261] path, whether the path of money-making or gymnastics or philosophy, are not
[1262] called lovers--the name of the whole is appropriated to those whose
[1263] affection takes one form only--they alone are said to love, or to be
[1264] lovers.' 'I dare say,' I replied, 'that you are right.' 'Yes,' she added,
[1265] 'and you hear people say that lovers are seeking for their other half; but
[1266] I say that they are seeking neither for the half of themselves, nor for the
[1267] whole, unless the half or the whole be also a good. And they will cut off
[1268] their own hands and feet and cast them away, if they are evil; for they
[1269] love not what is their own, unless perchance there be some one who calls
[1270] what belongs to him the good, and what belongs to another the evil. For
[1271] there is nothing which men love but the good. Is there anything?'
[1272] 'Certainly, I should say, that there is nothing.' 'Then,' she said, 'the
[1273] simple truth is, that men love the good.' 'Yes,' I said. 'To which must
[1274] be added that they love the possession of the good?' 'Yes, that must be
[1275] added.' 'And not only the possession, but the everlasting possession of
[1276] the good?' 'That must be added too.' 'Then love,' she said, 'may be
[1277] described generally as the love of the everlasting possession of the good?'
[1278] 'That is most true.'
[1279]
[1280] 'Then if this be the nature of love, can you tell me further,' she said,
[1281] 'what is the manner of the pursuit? what are they doing who show all this
[1282] eagerness and heat which is called love? and what is the object which they
[1283] have in view? Answer me.' 'Nay, Diotima,' I replied, 'if I had known, I
[1284] should not have wondered at your wisdom, neither should I have come to
[1285] learn from you about this very matter.' 'Well,' she said, 'I will teach
[1286] you:--The object which they have in view is birth in beauty, whether of
[1287] body or soul.' 'I do not understand you,' I said; 'the oracle requires an
[1288] explanation.' 'I will make my meaning clearer,' she replied. 'I mean to
[1289] say, that all men are bringing to the birth in their bodies and in their
[1290] souls. There is a certain age at which human nature is desirous of
[1291] procreation--procreation which must be in beauty and not in deformity; and
[1292] this procreation is the union of man and woman, and is a divine thing; for
[1293] conception and generation are an immortal principle in the mortal creature,
[1294] and in the inharmonious they can never be. But the deformed is always
[1295] inharmonious with the divine, and the beautiful harmonious. Beauty, then,
[1296] is the destiny or goddess of parturition who presides at birth, and
[1297] therefore, when approaching beauty, the conceiving power is propitious, and
[1298] diffusive, and benign, and begets and bears fruit: at the sight of
[1299] ugliness she frowns and contracts and has a sense of pain, and turns away,
[1300] and shrivels up, and not without a pang refrains from conception. And this
[1301] is the reason why, when the hour of conception arrives, and the teeming
[1302] nature is full, there is such a flutter and ecstasy about beauty whose
[1303] approach is the alleviation of the pain of travail. For love, Socrates, is
[1304] not, as you imagine, the love of the beautiful only.' 'What then?' 'The
[1305] love of generation and of birth in beauty.' 'Yes,' I said. 'Yes, indeed,'
[1306] she replied. 'But why of generation?' 'Because to the mortal creature,
[1307] generation is a sort of eternity and immortality,' she replied; 'and if, as
[1308] has been already admitted, love is of the everlasting possession of the
[1309] good, all men will necessarily desire immortality together with good:
[1310] Wherefore love is of immortality.'
[1311]
[1312] All this she taught me at various times when she spoke of love. And I
[1313] remember her once saying to me, 'What is the cause, Socrates, of love, and
[1314] the attendant desire? See you not how all animals, birds, as well as
[1315] beasts, in their desire of procreation, are in agony when they take the
[1316] infection of love, which begins with the desire of union; whereto is added
[1317] the care of offspring, on whose behalf the weakest are ready to battle
[1318] against the strongest even to the uttermost, and to die for them, and will
[1319] let themselves be tormented with hunger or suffer anything in order to
[1320] maintain their young. Man may be supposed to act thus from reason; but why
[1321] should animals have these passionate feelings? Can you tell me why?'
[1322] Again I replied that I did not know. She said to me: 'And do you expect
[1323] ever to become a master in the art of love, if you do not know this?' 'But
[1324] I have told you already, Diotima, that my ignorance is the reason why I
[1325] come to you; for I am conscious that I want a teacher; tell me then the
[1326] cause of this and of the other mysteries of love.' 'Marvel not,' she said,
[1327] 'if you believe that love is of the immortal, as we have several times
[1328] acknowledged; for here again, and on the same principle too, the mortal
[1329] nature is seeking as far as is possible to be everlasting and immortal:
[1330] and this is only to be attained by generation, because generation always
[1331] leaves behind a new existence in the place of the old. Nay even in the
[1332] life of the same individual there is succession and not absolute unity: a
[1333] man is called the same, and yet in the short interval which elapses between
[1334] youth and age, and in which every animal is said to have life and identity,
[1335] he is undergoing a perpetual process of loss and reparation--hair, flesh,
[1336] bones, blood, and the whole body are always changing. Which is true not
[1337] only of the body, but also of the soul, whose habits, tempers, opinions,
[1338] desires, pleasures, pains, fears, never remain the same in any one of us,
[1339] but are always coming and going; and equally true of knowledge, and what is
[1340] still more surprising to us mortals, not only do the sciences in general
[1341] spring up and decay, so that in respect of them we are never the same; but
[1342] each of them individually experiences a like change. For what is implied
[1343] in the word "recollection," but the departure of knowledge, which is ever
[1344] being forgotten, and is renewed and preserved by recollection, and appears
[1345] to be the same although in reality new, according to that law of succession
[1346] by which all mortal things are preserved, not absolutely the same, but by
[1347] substitution, the old worn-out mortality leaving another new and similar
[1348] existence behind--unlike the divine, which is always the same and not
[1349] another? And in this way, Socrates, the mortal body, or mortal anything,
[1350] partakes of immortality; but the immortal in another way. Marvel not then
[1351] at the love which all men have of their offspring; for that universal love
[1352] and interest is for the sake of immortality.'
[1353]
[1354] I was astonished at her words, and said: 'Is this really true, O thou wise
[1355] Diotima?' And she answered with all the authority of an accomplished
[1356] sophist: 'Of that, Socrates, you may be assured;--think only of the
[1357] ambition of men, and you will wonder at the senselessness of their ways,
[1358] unless you consider how they are stirred by the love of an immortality of
[1359] fame. They are ready to run all risks greater far than they would have run
[1360] for their children, and to spend money and undergo any sort of toil, and
[1361] even to die, for the sake of leaving behind them a name which shall be
[1362] eternal. Do you imagine that Alcestis would have died to save Admetus, or
[1363] Achilles to avenge Patroclus, or your own Codrus in order to preserve the
[1364] kingdom for his sons, if they had not imagined that the memory of their
[1365] virtues, which still survives among us, would be immortal? Nay,' she said,
[1366] 'I am persuaded that all men do all things, and the better they are the
[1367] more they do them, in hope of the glorious fame of immortal virtue; for
[1368] they desire the immortal.
[1369]
[1370] 'Those who are pregnant in the body only, betake themselves to women and
[1371] beget children--this is the character of their love; their offspring, as
[1372] they hope, will preserve their memory and giving them the blessedness and
[1373] immortality which they desire in the future. But souls which are pregnant
[1374] --for there certainly are men who are more creative in their souls than in
[1375] their bodies--conceive that which is proper for the soul to conceive or
[1376] contain. And what are these conceptions?--wisdom and virtue in general.
[1377] And such creators are poets and all artists who are deserving of the name
[1378] inventor. But the greatest and fairest sort of wisdom by far is that which
[1379] is concerned with the ordering of states and families, and which is called
[1380] temperance and justice. And he who in youth has the seed of these
[1381] implanted in him and is himself inspired, when he comes to maturity desires
[1382] to beget and generate. He wanders about seeking beauty that he may beget
[1383] offspring--for in deformity he will beget nothing--and naturally embraces
[1384] the beautiful rather than the deformed body; above all when he finds a fair
[1385] and noble and well-nurtured soul, he embraces the two in one person, and to
[1386] such an one he is full of speech about virtue and the nature and pursuits
[1387] of a good man; and he tries to educate him; and at the touch of the
[1388] beautiful which is ever present to his memory, even when absent, he brings
[1389] forth that which he had conceived long before, and in company with him
[1390] tends that which he brings forth; and they are married by a far nearer tie
[1391] and have a closer friendship than those who beget mortal children, for the
[1392] children who are their common offspring are fairer and more immortal. Who,
[1393] when he thinks of Homer and Hesiod and other great poets, would not rather
[1394] have their children than ordinary human ones? Who would not emulate them
[1395] in the creation of children such as theirs, which have preserved their
[1396] memory and given them everlasting glory? Or who would not have such
[1397] children as Lycurgus left behind him to be the saviours, not only of
[1398] Lacedaemon, but of Hellas, as one may say? There is Solon, too, who is the
[1399] revered father of Athenian laws; and many others there are in many other
[1400] places, both among Hellenes and barbarians, who have given to the world
[1401] many noble works, and have been the parents of virtue of every kind; and
[1402] many temples have been raised in their honour for the sake of children such
[1403] as theirs; which were never raised in honour of any one, for the sake of
[1404] his mortal children.
[1405]
[1406] 'These are the lesser mysteries of love, into which even you, Socrates, may
[1407] enter; to the greater and more hidden ones which are the crown of these,
[1408] and to which, if you pursue them in a right spirit, they will lead, I know
[1409] not whether you will be able to attain. But I will do my utmost to inform
[1410] you, and do you follow if you can. For he who would proceed aright in this
[1411] matter should begin in youth to visit beautiful forms; and first, if he be
[1412] guided by his instructor aright, to love one such form only--out of that he
[1413] should create fair thoughts; and soon he will of himself perceive that the
[1414] beauty of one form is akin to the beauty of another; and then if beauty of
[1415] form in general is his pursuit, how foolish would he be not to recognize
[1416] that the beauty in every form is and the same! And when he perceives this
[1417] he will abate his violent love of the one, which he will despise and deem a
[1418] small thing, and will become a lover of all beautiful forms; in the next
[1419] stage he will consider that the beauty of the mind is more honourable than
[1420] the beauty of the outward form. So that if a virtuous soul have but a
[1421] little comeliness, he will be content to love and tend him, and will search
[1422] out and bring to the birth thoughts which may improve the young, until he
[1423] is compelled to contemplate and see the beauty of institutions and laws,
[1424] and to understand that the beauty of them all is of one family, and that
[1425] personal beauty is a trifle; and after laws and institutions he will go on
[1426] to the sciences, that he may see their beauty, being not like a servant in
[1427] love with the beauty of one youth or man or institution, himself a slave
[1428] mean and narrow-minded, but drawing towards and contemplating the vast sea
[1429] of beauty, he will create many fair and noble thoughts and notions in
[1430] boundless love of wisdom; until on that shore he grows and waxes strong,
[1431] and at last the vision is revealed to him of a single science, which is the
[1432] science of beauty everywhere. To this I will proceed; please to give me
[1433] your very best attention:
[1434]
[1435] 'He who has been instructed thus far in the things of love, and who has
[1436] learned to see the beautiful in due order and succession, when he comes
[1437] toward the end will suddenly perceive a nature of wondrous beauty (and
[1438] this, Socrates, is the final cause of all our former toils)--a nature which
[1439] in the first place is everlasting, not growing and decaying, or waxing and
[1440] waning; secondly, not fair in one point of view and foul in another, or at
[1441] one time or in one relation or at one place fair, at another time or in
[1442] another relation or at another place foul, as if fair to some and foul to
[1443] others, or in the likeness of a face or hands or any other part of the
[1444] bodily frame, or in any form of speech or knowledge, or existing in any
[1445] other being, as for example, in an animal, or in heaven, or in earth, or in
[1446] any other place; but beauty absolute, separate, simple, and everlasting,
[1447] which without diminution and without increase, or any change, is imparted
[1448] to the ever-growing and perishing beauties of all other things. He who
[1449] from these ascending under the influence of true love, begins to perceive
[1450] that beauty, is not far from the end. And the true order of going, or
[1451] being led by another, to the things of love, is to begin from the beauties
[1452] of earth and mount upwards for the sake of that other beauty, using these
[1453] as steps only, and from one going on to two, and from two to all fair
[1454] forms, and from fair forms to fair practices, and from fair practices to
[1455] fair notions, until from fair notions he arrives at the notion of absolute
[1456] beauty, and at last knows what the essence of beauty is. This, my dear
[1457] Socrates,' said the stranger of Mantineia, 'is that life above all others
[1458] which man should live, in the contemplation of beauty absolute; a beauty
[1459] which if you once beheld, you would see not to be after the measure of
[1460] gold, and garments, and fair boys and youths, whose presence now entrances
[1461] you; and you and many a one would be content to live seeing them only and
[1462] conversing with them without meat or drink, if that were possible--you only
[1463] want to look at them and to be with them. But what if man had eyes to see
[1464] the true beauty--the divine beauty, I mean, pure and clear and unalloyed,
[1465] not clogged with the pollutions of mortality and all the colours and
[1466] vanities of human life--thither looking, and holding converse with the true
[1467] beauty simple and divine? Remember how in that communion only, beholding
[1468] beauty with the eye of the mind, he will be enabled to bring forth, not
[1469] images of beauty, but realities (for he has hold not of an image but of a
[1470] reality), and bringing forth and nourishing true virtue to become the
[1471] friend of God and be immortal, if mortal man may. Would that be an ignoble
[1472] life?'
[1473]
[1474] Such, Phaedrus--and I speak not only to you, but to all of you--were the
[1475] words of Diotima; and I am persuaded of their truth. And being persuaded
[1476] of them, I try to persuade others, that in the attainment of this end human
[1477] nature will not easily find a helper better than love: And therefore,
[1478] also, I say that every man ought to honour him as I myself honour him, and
[1479] walk in his ways, and exhort others to do the same, and praise the power
[1480] and spirit of love according to the measure of my ability now and ever.
[1481]
[1482] The words which I have spoken, you, Phaedrus, may call an encomium of love,
[1483] or anything else which you please.
[1484]
[1485] When Socrates had done speaking, the company applauded, and Aristophanes
[1486] was beginning to say something in answer to the allusion which Socrates had
[1487] made to his own speech, when suddenly there was a great knocking at the
[1488] door of the house, as of revellers, and the sound of a flute-girl was
[1489] heard. Agathon told the attendants to go and see who were the intruders.
[1490] 'If they are friends of ours,' he said, 'invite them in, but if not, say
[1491] that the drinking is over.' A little while afterwards they heard the voice
[1492] of Alcibiades resounding in the court; he was in a great state of
[1493] intoxication, and kept roaring and shouting 'Where is Agathon? Lead me to
[1494] Agathon,' and at length, supported by the flute-girl and some of his
[1495] attendants, he found his way to them. 'Hail, friends,' he said, appearing
[1496] at the door crowned with a massive garland of ivy and violets, his head
[1497] flowing with ribands. 'Will you have a very drunken man as a companion of
[1498] your revels? Or shall I crown Agathon, which was my intention in coming,
[1499] and go away? For I was unable to come yesterday, and therefore I am here
[1500] to-day, carrying on my head these ribands, that taking them from my own
[1501] head, I may crown the head of this fairest and wisest of men, as I may be
[1502] allowed to call him. Will you laugh at me because I am drunk? Yet I know
[1503] very well that I am speaking the truth, although you may laugh. But first
[1504] tell me; if I come in shall we have the understanding of which I spoke
[1505] (supra Will you have a very drunken man? etc.)? Will you drink with me or
[1506] not?'
[1507]
[1508] The company were vociferous in begging that he would take his place among
[1509] them, and Agathon specially invited him. Thereupon he was led in by the
[1510] people who were with him; and as he was being led, intending to crown
[1511] Agathon, he took the ribands from his own head and held them in front of
[1512] his eyes; he was thus prevented from seeing Socrates, who made way for him,
[1513] and Alcibiades took the vacant place between Agathon and Socrates, and in
[1514] taking the place he embraced Agathon and crowned him. Take off his
[1515] sandals, said Agathon, and let him make a third on the same couch.
[1516]
[1517] By all means; but who makes the third partner in our revels? said
[1518] Alcibiades, turning round and starting up as he caught sight of Socrates.
[1519] By Heracles, he said, what is this? here is Socrates always lying in wait
[1520] for me, and always, as his way is, coming out at all sorts of unsuspected
[1521] places: and now, what have you to say for yourself, and why are you lying
[1522] here, where I perceive that you have contrived to find a place, not by a
[1523] joker or lover of jokes, like Aristophanes, but by the fairest of the
[1524] company?
[1525]
[1526] Socrates turned to Agathon and said: I must ask you to protect me,
[1527] Agathon; for the passion of this man has grown quite a serious matter to
[1528] me. Since I became his admirer I have never been allowed to speak to any
[1529] other fair one, or so much as to look at them. If I do, he goes wild with
[1530] envy and jealousy, and not only abuses me but can hardly keep his hands off
[1531] me, and at this moment he may do me some harm. Please to see to this, and
[1532] either reconcile me to him, or, if he attempts violence, protect me, as I
[1533] am in bodily fear of his mad and passionate attempts.
[1534]
[1535] There can never be reconciliation between you and me, said Alcibiades; but
[1536] for the present I will defer your chastisement. And I must beg you,
[1537] Agathon, to give me back some of the ribands that I may crown the
[1538] marvellous head of this universal despot--I would not have him complain of
[1539] me for crowning you, and neglecting him, who in conversation is the
[1540] conqueror of all mankind; and this not only once, as you were the day
[1541] before yesterday, but always. Whereupon, taking some of the ribands, he
[1542] crowned Socrates, and again reclined.
[1543]
[1544] Then he said: You seem, my friends, to be sober, which is a thing not to
[1545] be endured; you must drink--for that was the agreement under which I was
[1546] admitted--and I elect myself master of the feast until you are well drunk.
[1547] Let us have a large goblet, Agathon, or rather, he said, addressing the
[1548] attendant, bring me that wine-cooler. The wine-cooler which had caught his
[1549] eye was a vessel holding more than two quarts--this he filled and emptied,
[1550] and bade the attendant fill it again for Socrates. Observe, my friends,
[1551] said Alcibiades, that this ingenious trick of mine will have no effect on
[1552] Socrates, for he can drink any quantity of wine and not be at all nearer
[1553] being drunk. Socrates drank the cup which the attendant filled for him.
[1554]
[1555] Eryximachus said: What is this, Alcibiades? Are we to have neither
[1556] conversation nor singing over our cups; but simply to drink as if we were
[1557] thirsty?
[1558]
[1559] Alcibiades replied: Hail, worthy son of a most wise and worthy sire!
[1560]
[1561] The same to you, said Eryximachus; but what shall we do?
[1562]
[1563] That I leave to you, said Alcibiades.
[1564]
[1565] 'The wise physician skilled our wounds to heal (from Pope's Homer, Il.)'
[1566]
[1567] shall prescribe and we will obey. What do you want?
[1568]
[1569] Well, said Eryximachus, before you appeared we had passed a resolution that
[1570] each one of us in turn should make a speech in praise of love, and as good
[1571] a one as he could: the turn was passed round from left to right; and as
[1572] all of us have spoken, and you have not spoken but have well drunken, you
[1573] ought to speak, and then impose upon Socrates any task which you please,
[1574] and he on his right hand neighbour, and so on.
[1575]
[1576] That is good, Eryximachus, said Alcibiades; and yet the comparison of a
[1577] drunken man's speech with those of sober men is hardly fair; and I should
[1578] like to know, sweet friend, whether you really believe what Socrates was
[1579] just now saying; for I can assure you that the very reverse is the fact,
[1580] and that if I praise any one but himself in his presence, whether God or
[1581] man, he will hardly keep his hands off me.
[1582]
[1583] For shame, said Socrates.
[1584]
[1585] Hold your tongue, said Alcibiades, for by Poseidon, there is no one else
[1586] whom I will praise when you are of the company.
[1587]
[1588] Well then, said Eryximachus, if you like praise Socrates.
[1589]
[1590] What do you think, Eryximachus? said Alcibiades: shall I attack him and
[1591] inflict the punishment before you all?
[1592]
[1593] What are you about? said Socrates; are you going to raise a laugh at my
[1594] expense? Is that the meaning of your praise?
[1595]
[1596] I am going to speak the truth, if you will permit me.
[1597]
[1598] I not only permit, but exhort you to speak the truth.
[1599]
[1600] Then I will begin at once, said Alcibiades, and if I say anything which is
[1601] not true, you may interrupt me if you will, and say 'that is a lie,' though
[1602] my intention is to speak the truth. But you must not wonder if I speak any
[1603] how as things come into my mind; for the fluent and orderly enumeration of
[1604] all your singularities is not a task which is easy to a man in my
[1605] condition.
[1606]
[1607] And now, my boys, I shall praise Socrates in a figure which will appear to
[1608] him to be a caricature, and yet I speak, not to make fun of him, but only
[1609] for the truth's sake. I say, that he is exactly like the busts of Silenus,
[1610] which are set up in the statuaries' shops, holding pipes and flutes in
[1611] their mouths; and they are made to open in the middle, and have images of
[1612] gods inside them. I say also that he is like Marsyas the satyr. You
[1613] yourself will not deny, Socrates, that your face is like that of a satyr.
[1614] Aye, and there is a resemblance in other points too. For example, you are
[1615] a bully, as I can prove by witnesses, if you will not confess. And are you
[1616] not a flute-player? That you are, and a performer far more wonderful than
[1617] Marsyas. He indeed with instruments used to charm the souls of men by the
[1618] power of his breath, and the players of his music do so still: for the
[1619] melodies of Olympus (compare Arist. Pol.) are derived from Marsyas who
[1620] taught them, and these, whether they are played by a great master or by a
[1621] miserable flute-girl, have a power which no others have; they alone possess
[1622] the soul and reveal the wants of those who have need of gods and mysteries,
[1623] because they are divine. But you produce the same effect with your words
[1624] only, and do not require the flute: that is the difference between you and
[1625] him. When we hear any other speaker, even a very good one, he produces
[1626] absolutely no effect upon us, or not much, whereas the mere fragments of
[1627] you and your words, even at second-hand, and however imperfectly repeated,
[1628] amaze and possess the souls of every man, woman, and child who comes within
[1629] hearing of them. And if I were not afraid that you would think me
[1630] hopelessly drunk, I would have sworn as well as spoken to the influence
[1631] which they have always had and still have over me. For my heart leaps
[1632] within me more than that of any Corybantian reveller, and my eyes rain
[1633] tears when I hear them. And I observe that many others are affected in the
[1634] same manner. I have heard Pericles and other great orators, and I thought
[1635] that they spoke well, but I never had any similar feeling; my soul was not
[1636] stirred by them, nor was I angry at the thought of my own slavish state.
[1637] But this Marsyas has often brought me to such a pass, that I have felt as
[1638] if I could hardly endure the life which I am leading (this, Socrates, you
[1639] will admit); and I am conscious that if I did not shut my ears against him,
[1640] and fly as from the voice of the siren, my fate would be like that of
[1641] others,--he would transfix me, and I should grow old sitting at his feet.
[1642] For he makes me confess that I ought not to live as I do, neglecting the
[1643] wants of my own soul, and busying myself with the concerns of the
[1644] Athenians; therefore I hold my ears and tear myself away from him. And he
[1645] is the only person who ever made me ashamed, which you might think not to
[1646] be in my nature, and there is no one else who does the same. For I know
[1647] that I cannot answer him or say that I ought not to do as he bids, but when
[1648] I leave his presence the love of popularity gets the better of me. And
[1649] therefore I run away and fly from him, and when I see him I am ashamed of
[1650] what I have confessed to him. Many a time have I wished that he were dead,
[1651] and yet I know that I should be much more sorry than glad, if he were to
[1652] die: so that I am at my wit's end.
[1653]
[1654] And this is what I and many others have suffered from the flute-playing of
[1655] this satyr. Yet hear me once more while I show you how exact the image is,
[1656] and how marvellous his power. For let me tell you; none of you know him;
[1657] but I will reveal him to you; having begun, I must go on. See you how fond
[1658] he is of the fair? He is always with them and is always being smitten by
[1659] them, and then again he knows nothing and is ignorant of all things--such
[1660] is the appearance which he puts on. Is he not like a Silenus in this? To
[1661] be sure he is: his outer mask is the carved head of the Silenus; but, O my
[1662] companions in drink, when he is opened, what temperance there is residing
[1663] within! Know you that beauty and wealth and honour, at which the many
[1664] wonder, are of no account with him, and are utterly despised by him: he
[1665] regards not at all the persons who are gifted with them; mankind are
[1666] nothing to him; all his life is spent in mocking and flouting at them. But
[1667] when I opened him, and looked within at his serious purpose, I saw in him
[1668] divine and golden images of such fascinating beauty that I was ready to do
[1669] in a moment whatever Socrates commanded: they may have escaped the
[1670] observation of others, but I saw them. Now I fancied that he was seriously
[1671] enamoured of my beauty, and I thought that I should therefore have a grand
[1672] opportunity of hearing him tell what he knew, for I had a wonderful opinion
[1673] of the attractions of my youth. In the prosecution of this design, when I
[1674] next went to him, I sent away the attendant who usually accompanied me (I
[1675] will confess the whole truth, and beg |